Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDOMAIN for emptynon-terminals
"George Barwood" <george.barwood@blueyonder.co.uk> Tue, 29 March 2011 17:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDOMAIN for emptynon-terminals
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Lewis" <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz> To: <dnsext@ietf.org> Cc: "Edward Lewis" <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDOMAIN for emptynon-terminals > At 17:16 +0100 3/29/11, George Barwood wrote: > >>I agree it's quite common for zones to give non-deterministic positive answers >>as a form of load-balancing, where a limited set of A records is randomly >>(or otherwise) selected from a large set. This is not affected. > > Using that...when you have A, AAAA, and fallback answers like DNAME > and CNAME, for example. It might not be just which A to return, but > whether to withhold the AAAA and or use a query redirection tool. > Consider that ANY queries may come. > > With IPv6 whitelisting > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-livingood-dns-whitelisting-implications-01) > as an example, I might want to withhold the existence of a AAAA > record from some queriers but not others. That's adjusting the response based on the identity of the client. But what I'm asking for is a use case for sending inconsistent NSEC bitmaps to the same client. I think that's hard to envisage. > The way the standards read now, it's possible to generate NSEC/3's > owning a private type for all names that warrant one (NSEC does not > represent empty non-terminals, NSEC3 does) claiming just a private > type and things would work. That's because you don't get a NSEC/3 in > a positive answer (other than ANY). Right. What I'm saying is that an NSEC bitmap tells a client the complete set of types that don't exist for a domain, and it's reasonable for a client to use all of that information ( rather than just for the type requested ). You don't seem to have come up with a plausible example where that could be a problem, and I cannot see one either. George > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Edward Lewis > NeuStar You can leave a voice message at +1-571-434-5468 > > Me to infant son: "Waah! Waah! Is that all you can say? Waah?" > Son: "Waah!" > _______________________________________________ > dnsext mailing list > dnsext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsext
- [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDOMAIN… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… Tony Finch
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] draft-vixie-dnsext-resimprove - NXDO… George Barwood
- [dnsext] bitmap inference was Re: ... - NXDOMAIN … Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] bitmap inference was Re: ... - NXDOM… George Barwood
- Re: [dnsext] bitmap inference was Re: ... - NXDOM… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] bitmap inference was Re: ... - NXDOM… Jelte Jansen
- Re: [dnsext] bitmap inference was Re: ... - NXDOM… Edward Lewis
- Re: [dnsext] bitmap inference was Re: ... - NXDOM… Brian Dickson