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Re: [dnsext] getting people to use new RRTYPEs

Måns Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org> Fri, 26 April 2013 12:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [dnsext] getting people to use new RRTYPEs Date: Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 08:14:24AM -0400 Quoting Andrew Sullivan (ajs@anvilwalrusden.com):

> I have to agree with John Levine that the usual answer of the DNS
> community to provisioning problems -- in caricature, "This is easy,
> you must be morons."  -- is not helpful, and is indicative of a closed
> mindedness that is unbecoming.  

The proper answer is "This ought to be easy, and usually is,
but half-assed implementations that are in conflict with both letter
and intent of the DNS standards and culture make it unnecessarily hard,
for some people. Vendors most of the time act against better knowledge
because of reasons. This is moronic."

/Måns, ivory-tower-sited operator of DNS zones and email servers. 
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