IETF Logo Mail Archive

[DNSOP] Re: Request for feedback: draft-davids-forsalereg

"Marco Davids (IETF)" <marco.davids@sidn.nl> Fri, 20 June 2025 09:39 UTC

Return-Path: <marco.davids@sidn.nl>
X-Original-To: dnsop@mail2.ietf.org
Delivered-To: dnsop@mail2.ietf.org
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD3B37552B5 for <dnsop@mail2.ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 02:39:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ietf.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: mail2.ietf.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sidn.nl
Received: from mail2.ietf.org ([166.84.6.31]) by localhost (mail2.ietf.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oGesf-XZ5odq for <dnsop@mail2.ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 02:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from EUR05-DB8-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-db8eur05on2133.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.20.133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A06C37552B0 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 02:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector10001; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=KHgCK35AU/eDt4RhhccFK9Uz4DW9HbvbViiBhneyl5bXOU1r3ViH8bbDWoyYHMRYuU/24TslN6Yv25Nt+ViKwaO571QTUIE6h0nFmG9ihutht4D1gNV/nAEXpR443IzfBxBBKNlCc09tRZHatu0b8fsjfZuX20P7TakkoF6W/OIMmBHuqOZqP/deuHZ4VYhy2FwjibzM1NKi8YkbyN0zWlZGFrl8repSzP8LkhiA0crtrNVx/j6mEtrymeK3+vb8ehy3vMU6IAXrSZFc0vR1d/quQWo+kt4CHus3xXZWZ1Ym8mIq5fWXHhgT01Ni1577LfNMiyYvEdLUYQh7dTDtsw==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector10001; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=t0hu241x0RhO5KhZAm66hcEGgN/VbAF4SzSyHy0r2DY=; b=AobwOksXuMmLbqxqAUcyqIIoOXODIq595ffqMHHT8aOXOZ8XIoL1+70TJS4sECtYBRIob2+hrU8jxusIdt9THp1xQ2QmEBk0IegpEPyeuZ1TAL6x15V+miXDmP2iR+w+E77bWzRStwsr5li3ZkwlKbLEorIrq7AMNDKFnGYONN7tusgP07ZhEYQhXVYrQVNZdVpwevtiKftQcPOM8iYw25Vq+UEgbA9isnaR2j0ZwSyw2qYoRqXe/GRCTdskCaLJmaV3VD+k0vbRL7EvuwNGOmfoKuPPfZCNPzMAXBYGHYq6DO8gKAPwsm2mKFxUhuCVzXV2sKZq9vtxqiFA2cLIiQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sidn.nl; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=sidn.nl; dkim=pass header.d=sidn.nl; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sidn.nl; s=selector2; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=t0hu241x0RhO5KhZAm66hcEGgN/VbAF4SzSyHy0r2DY=; b=ezK73fIBWUBIygnr6DsIFSRonCdqAGe+QoQjWdna+jStxaIUNQNPPGZ27JUMxzl0+bygkf/WA40gJ/CMlpUxAVU+W/ihOQFxxmCNcgBOcZULvyeFTMqhh6qI/Lv0h5ABB4p+e9q2dK2II4+m3TjoPWzFx5ybHot7qqKueRGeKQs=
Authentication-Results: dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=sidn.nl;
Received: from FRZP194MB2381.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10a6:d10:13a::20) by VE1P194MB0832.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10a6:800:162::7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.8857.25; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:39:15 +0000
Received: from FRZP194MB2381.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::d25a:cc56:42f0:5707]) by FRZP194MB2381.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([fe80::d25a:cc56:42f0:5707%7]) with mapi id 15.20.8857.022; Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:39:15 +0000
Message-ID: <43ea6109-38c6-4c0d-8412-994ac7d76eeb@sidn.nl>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:39:14 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
To: dnsop@ietf.org
References: <270183af-fefa-4ff2-8d56-c3b4fafdf530@sidn.nl> <20250617165449.CF77ECE95B10@ary.qy>
From: "Marco Davids (IETF)" <marco.davids@sidn.nl>
Content-Language: nl, en-GB
Organization: SIDN
In-Reply-To: <20250617165449.CF77ECE95B10@ary.qy>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-ClientProxiedBy: AS4P195CA0020.EURP195.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10a6:20b:5d6::7) To FRZP194MB2381.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10a6:d10:13a::20)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email
X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: FRZP194MB2381:EE_|VE1P194MB0832:EE_
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 3d7ce3a7-a3f5-4b1b-2605-08ddafde5248
X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-Relay: 0
X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;ARA:13230040|366016|376014|10070799003|1800799024;
X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: 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
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255;CTRY:;LANG:en;SCL:1;SRV:;IPV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;H:FRZP194MB2381.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM;PTR:;CAT:NONE;SFS:(13230040)(366016)(376014)(10070799003)(1800799024);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount: 1
X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0: 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
X-OriginatorOrg: sidn.nl
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 3d7ce3a7-a3f5-4b1b-2605-08ddafde5248
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: FRZP194MB2381.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2025 09:39:15.6702 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: ab4d3626-c1c5-4a75-ab85-427f1a644a7d
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: fnXKoSrUqaBukEs0Av/p2D6UQvDO/tdQ12sOVwNwtqNJV5tGnHUW/SczkqkFH175FeUKZPmodxQ9Q5rPjr3y1w==
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VE1P194MB0832
Message-ID-Hash: Q7PWVPRV26Q2RRRXATQCDFHJZSDHJHMI
X-Message-ID-Hash: Q7PWVPRV26Q2RRRXATQCDFHJZSDHJHMI
X-MailFrom: marco.davids@sidn.nl
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-dnsop.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6
Precedence: list
Reply-To: marco.davids+ietf@sidn.nl
Subject: [DNSOP] Re: Request for feedback: draft-davids-forsalereg
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/-0POVt_zsS88Etf-W3XtDyVyfsM>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:dnsop-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:dnsop-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:dnsop-leave@ietf.org>

Dear John, Vladimír and others,

On 17 Jun 2025 12:54:49 -0400 John Levine wrote:


> The draft needs a lot of work...

> ... sure, we could adopt it as a potential informational RFC.


Thanks for taking the time to review the draft and for your initial 
thoughts!

Any concrete suggestions for improvement would be very helpful — whether 
in terms of structure, clarity, scope, or technical detail.

I’m also considering the best path forward.

One option is to proceed via the Independent Submission stream, while 
still welcoming DNSOP feedback.

But I’d be interested in your (and the WG’s) view on whether adoption 
within DNSOP might lead to a more useful and better-reviewed outcome — 
even if it's ultimately published as an Informational RFC.

Happy to take guidance on either path.

Thanks!

-- 
Marco

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-davids-forsalereg

v2.37.1 | Report a Bug | By Email | System Status