[DNSOP] Re: Call for Adoption: draft-davies-internal-tld

Geoff Huston <gih902@gmail.com> Tue, 15 April 2025 20:23 UTC

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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 06:23:01 +1000
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I am left asking myself: what is the purpose of this document?

I had assumed that the purpose was to provide RFC documentation to justify the inclusion of this label in the Special Use Domain Name registry, but the draft reads: "(Editor note: It not yet decided if the "internal" top-level domain should be added to the list of special-use domain names..."

If there is no intent to add this label to the Special Use registry then what is the intent of this document and why is it being proposed to be an RFC? 

Why is DNSOP being asked to adopt this document if there is no clarity as to what is being proposed here?

thanks,

   Geoff



> On 15 Apr 2025, at 6:38 pm, Benno Overeinder <benno@nlnetlabs.nl> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> At IETF 122, there appeared to be some agreement to adopt this work within DNSOP.
> 
> Below are the relevant meeting minutes and a link to the presentation from the session:
> 
> A Top-level Domain for Private Use, Warren Kumari
>        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davies-internal-tld/
>        Ted: Should work on this
>        Tommy Jensen: Work on here
>                Consider that libraries MAY treat it as special to catch things
>                from going upstream
>        Stuart Cheshire: Agree with logic, should be listed in registry
>        Jim: Not for IETF because ICANN told us what to do
>                Maybe figure out the process
>                Thanks for bearing with all the machinations
>        Mark: Locally served registry requires that the names have insecure
>        delegations in the DNS
>                Bring-your-own-devices work because of this insecure validation
>        Suzanne: How much work is needed?
>                Warren: Almost no work
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/122/materials/slides-122-dnsop-sessa-draft-davies-internal-tld-a-top-level-domain-for-private-use-00
> 
> 
> Warren Kumari has responded to some of the questions raised at the mic during the session in an email to the mailing list.
> 
> This email begins a Call for Adoption for draft-davies-internal-tld, "A Top-level Domain for Private Use."
> 
> You can find the draft here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davies-internal-tld/
> 
> Please review the draft and share your thoughts on the mailing list, clearly stating whether you support its adoption by DNSOP.  Also let us know if you are willing to contribute text, provide reviews, or help in other ways.
> 
> Due to the Easter holiday, we are extending the usual timeline for this call.
> 
> The Call for Adoption will end on May 2, 2025.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> For DNSOP co-chairs
> -- Benno
> 
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