Re: [DNSOP] Agenda for IETF100

tjw ietf <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 11 November 2017 07:11 UTC

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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 15:11:06 +0800
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To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Agenda for IETF100
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Great question Paul and thanks for getting that on record.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 2:59 AM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>; wrote:

> Can confirm, as can anyone willing to go to an Adobe Connect archive. For
> the curious:
>
> https://participate.icann.org/p6u03rimy92/?launcher=false&
> fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal
>
> The discussion on Ethereum by Leonard Tan, an Ethereum developer, starts
> at 00:31:00. Paul’s question is at 00:42:16. From the transcript:
>
> >> PAUL:  PAUL, IETF.  LET'S SAY IETF GETS THE DOMAINS IETF IN THIS NAMING
> SYSTEM AND WE PAY OUR FEES FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.  EVERYBODY USES THE
> SITE.  AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE FORGET TO PAY AND THE DOMAIN FALLS BACK
> INTO THE POOL AND SOMEBODY ELSE REGISTERS IT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY
> ARE OR WHO THEY ARE.  NOW I GO TO A COURT SYSTEM.  I GET SOME LEGAL OPINION
> SAYING I OWN THIS TRADEMARK AND NOW I WANT TO GET THIS DOMAIN BACK.  IS
> THERE ANY WAY FOR ME TO GET THIS DOMAIN BACK?
> >>LEONARD TAN:  SO RIGHT NOW, THE ENS INDUSTRY, YOU CAN CHANGE IT BECAUSE
> IT REQUIRES FOUR OUT OF SEVEN PEOPLE.  MOST OF THEM ARE ETHEREUM
> DEVELOPERS.  AND IT IS A CONSENSUS OF THEM TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.  SO IT IS
> POSSIBLE, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO.
>
> Regards,
> -drc
>
> On Nov 10, 2017, 10:47 PM +0800, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>;, wrote:
>
> The ENS developer said so in response to my question.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 10, 2017, at 19:55, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>; wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 05:58:13PM +0530,
> Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>; wrote
> a message of 29 lines which said:
>
> It takes 4 out of 7 geeks to bypass the blockchain in case of
> emergency, court orders or kneecaps.
>
> According to the presentation held at ICANN60
>
>
> Well, if someone at ICANN said so, someone is wrong (or, at the
> minimum, over-simplificator).
>
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