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Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> Tue, 20 September 2016 11:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names
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Indeed….Please keep in mind we’re not talking about a final document here. While it would be nice to have a document that was almost ready for WG consensus, there’s room to discuss the final scope in the WG.

The “toxic waste” names are a “use case” in the sense that people keep asking about. The identified need for a default namespace in the homenet protocols represents another use case.


Suzanne


> On Sep 20, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
> 
> What is out of scope of the problem statement is saying what to do about them. :)
> 
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 5:32 AM, David Cake <dave@davecake.net <mailto:dave@davecake.net>> wrote:
> I tend to think that they may be within scope for the problem statement, but it is likely that existing solutions (e.g. ICANN refusing to delegate them while they remain toxic) are adequate to deal with the problem.
> 
> David
> 
> > On 19 Sep 2016, at 8:47 AM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com <mailto:johnl@taugh.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Dealing with toxic waste names is out of scope for the problem statement.
> >
> > Well, that's one theory.  Let's see of other people agree.
> >
> > R's,
> > John
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com <mailto:johnl@taugh.com>, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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