[DNSOP] Re: Call for Adoption: draft-davies-internal-tld

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 18 April 2025 21:44 UTC

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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: Call for Adoption: draft-davies-internal-tld
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On Fri, 18 Apr 2025, Philip Homburg wrote:
>> If I were using .internal names, I would configure them in unbound
>> exactly the same way that I configure the rDNS for 192.168/16 and
>>> onion and the other zones it's preconfigured to serve. If you ask
>> for DNSSEC, it says it's unsigned.
>>
>> If someone is about to say but then if I do my own DNSSEC checks
>> in my end device it won't work.
>
> That's too simple. If you do your own DNSSEC checks and forward to a local
> recursor then home.arpa. will work because it is an insecure delegation.
>
> As it stands today, internal is not delegated so it only works on the
> recursor where internal is configured but not on any other DNSSEC validator.
>
> In my opinion, that's quite a big difference.

I use unbound, which by default serves empty stubs for all these zones,
along with the RFC1918 rDNS.  In practice it works fine.

 	# By default, for a number of zones a small default 'nothing here'
 	# reply is built-in.  Query traffic is thus blocked.  If you
 	# wish to serve such zone you can unblock them by uncommenting one
 	# of the nodefault statements below.
 	# You may also have to use domain-insecure: zone to make DNSSEC work,
 	# unless you have your own trust anchors for this zone.
 	# local-zone: "localhost." nodefault
 	# local-zone: "127.in-addr.arpa." nodefault
 	# local-zone: "onion." nodefault
 	# local-zone: "test." nodefault
 	# local-zone: "invalid." nodefault

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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