Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 27 April 2023 21:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, Miek Gieben wrote:
>> I think it's an interesting idea but I also don't want to spend time on it 
>> if it's just going to be filed and forgotten.
>
> I looked into this for https://github.com/miekg/dns
>
> The option is trivial to implemented (in an auth server). I.e. seems similar 
> to NSID.

I agree that it's not hard to do.  But the Camel reminds us that there is 
an unlimited number of hacks that would be easy to implement, but not 
necessarily that anyone would use.  Hence my question about whether 
anyone's implemented it.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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