Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scream, was On the call for adoption on Special Use Names
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scream, was On the call for adoption on Special Use Names
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On 10/07/2016 06:36 PM, Alain Durand wrote: > > However, there is something that can be done before: provide a safe place > in the DNS tree where people can exist without colliding with the rest of > the tree. We can't prevent people from ignoring it and keep using whatever > name they want, but at least we would have provided a way to play nice. In > that spirit, efforts like .alt and friends are a step in the right direction. > We have .example and example.* for documentation, yet the XMPP documentation uses shakespeare.lit (I don't think .lit matches any SUN or any entry in any DNS-related RFC.) FWIW, wikipedia sends .lit to some Microsoft file extension. One cannot say that Peter St Andre is ignorant of IETF processes. Use of *example* in documentation and .invalid in free software is a good sign that developers are ready to follow suit and respect the norms. == hk
- [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special Use N… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Philip Homburg
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] On the call for adoption on Special U… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… Jeremy Rand
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… avri doria
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… Alain Durand
- Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scre… hellekin