Re: [DNSOP] draft-jabley-dnsop-ordered-answers

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Fri, 27 November 2015 13:17 UTC

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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:16:53 -0500
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-jabley-dnsop-ordered-answers
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 RFC 1122: "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send").

It's cute, but it will lead to interop issues. It will also make debugging more annoying for humans.

Paul

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> On Nov 27, 2015, at 07:22, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 09:37:23PM -0500,
> Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote 
> a message of 26 lines which said:
> 
>> I couldn't quite interpret the questions and hums in the room; was
>> the consensus
> 
>> From the PowerDNS Recursor's author, whose DNSSEC version of the
> software sometimes returns RRSIG before A:
> 
> "We shuffle and I'm not going to special case it for weak
> implementations."
> 
> :-)
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