Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Mon, 04 September 2017 12:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks
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In message <c0c73dab49c6452c616c86656704ecd0.1504518603@squirrel.mail>, "Walter H." writes: > > Except you misses the entire point of getting a registered name, > > that is to be able to use it safely without anyone trampling on its > > use. > > where there anyone who said: "don't use it", 15 years ago? Yes. There were lots that discourage the use of .local, lan, .corp etc. Just becaue you didn't hear from them doesn't mean they weren't out there. > > 'home.arpa' is in the process of being registered so that it > > can be used safely in the environment it is designed to be used in. > > yes, but commonly for residental networks, not company/enterprise networks, > they want/need something shorter like ".corp", ".lan", ".local", ... Want maybe, need absolutely not. > > Yes, 'home.arpa' will be registered. It's a different type of > > registration to the one that is normally done by talking to your > > friendly DNS registrar but it is a registration. > > exact such a name but a TLD is needed for companies/enterprises in order > to prevent new ones doing the mistakes of old ones ..., and having the > safety not having a conflict in the future ... > > > Names are not addresses. They have different properties. > > that is not the point, > the point is, that in those days where these companies decided to use > .local, .corp, ... such a paper prevented these decisions and now it could > have been expanded with DNSSEC features ... Everyone was told to register the domain you want to use, there was no exception for active directory. > just guess what would have happened when there was no RFC1918; by the way, > I would not have any problem changing my internal IPv4 addresses from e.g. > 10.x.x.x to let's say 52.x.x.x - it is only a thought; IPv6 would have been deployed a lot sooner. :-) > companies that use .local as their internal domain name and/or Active > Directory have no problem as long as there is no system that insists on > using mDNS for .local as specified in RFC6762 Except such systems exist. Go look at what a Mac does. ping for test.local and look and port 5353 traffic and compare it to port 53 traffic. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not only h… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Ralph Droms
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Måns Nilsson
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Jim Reid
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Måns Nilsson
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Michael H. Warfield
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Walter H.
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] DNS names for local networks - not on… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks Warren Kumari
- [DNSOP] Fwd: DNSSEC in local networks william manning