Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks

"Walter H." <Walter.H@mathemainzel.info> Mon, 04 September 2017 15:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC in local networks
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On 04.09.2017 17:01, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 10:54:44AM +0200,
>   Walter H.<walter.h@mathemainzel.info>  wrote
>   a message of 25 lines which said:
>
>> I'd say: "either you trust the local net or not";
> ..., but I think it is a
> mistake.
not really, when  there is a security problem, DNS is the less one ...
and I didn't say, that a locally running resolver would not be allowed 
to validate DNSSEC;
but there needn't be a DNSSEC signed local only zone, as the signature 
and zone content comes from the same host;
you can of course validate your own local only zone, nobody prevents you 
from doing so, but it is somewhat strange;
and the fact that a change of the zone doesn't need to be resigned 
raises problems to;

  Many local networks are vulnerable to packets with an
internal address coming from the outside, routing attacks diverting
traffic outside, etc. Not to mention the internal attacks, for
instance by a MS-Windows zombie.

even this is true, DNSSEC for the local zones doesn't make it any better;
as I said, when there is a security problem DNS is the less one ...

> It seems to me that having TLS, DNSSEC and SSH and so on even in the
> local net is Best Practice.
yes and no; when operating a local  mail server that uses TLS for IMAP, 
SMTP, then
a Anti-virus has to break TLS in order to scan before it gets to the 
client ...