Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call - draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Tue, 20 December 2016 15:29 UTC

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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Second Working Group Last Call - draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

>>> One of my comments was not addressed. I would like, in section 10, see
>>> some details about what exactly is implemented by Unbound and Google
>>> Public DNS:
>>>
>>> * synthesis of NXDOMAIN from NSEC (obviously; that's the minimum)
>>> * synthesis of NXDOMAIN from NSEC3 (if no opt-out)
>>> * synthesis of NODATA from NSEC/NSEC3
>>> * synthesis of positive answers from wilcards+NSEC
>>> * all of them?
>>
>> Do you mean this in the context of RFC 6982?
>
> No, RFC 7942.
>
>> Or do you believe this needs to go into the RFC?
>
> Certainly not.

Ok, we are talking about the same and are in agreement :)

Paul