Re: [DNSOP] draft-hzhwm-start-tls-for-dns-00: Starting TLS over DNS

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Sat, 15 February 2014 14:03 UTC

Return-Path: <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A93C1A0234; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 06:03:12 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y4ZjrfUrGG1j; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 06:03:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail.bortzmeyer.org (aetius.bortzmeyer.org [IPv6:2001:4b98:dc0:41:216:3eff:fece:1902]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6151A023A; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 06:03:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 3C8A63B459; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:03:06 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by mail.sources.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2441F1907BD; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 15:01:33 +0100 (CET)
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 15:01:33 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
Message-ID: <20140215140133.GA6990@sources.org>
References: <CAESS1RPh+UK+r=JzZ9nE_DUqcvNtZiS6TNt1CDN-C0uiU7HP=A@mail.gmail.com> <52FEF407.30405@redbarn.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <52FEF407.30405@redbarn.org>
X-Transport: UUCP rules
X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 7.3
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/3R_oSRRy31XuumOekOI7Uy98BLY
Cc: dnsop@ietf.org, perpass@ietf.org, Zi Hu <zihu@usc.edu>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-hzhwm-start-tls-for-dns-00: Starting TLS over DNS
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 14:03:12 -0000

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 08:58:47PM -0800,
 Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote 
 a message of 76 lines which said:

> this is good work.

I fully agree. But do note we did not discuss yet the alternatives
(draft-wijngaards-dnsop-confidentialdns, DNScrypt or simply
IPsec). The BoF "DNS encryption" in London seems a good start 
<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart> and 
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnse/charter/>.

> i recommend it be adopted by the working group, 

DNSOP? Some people say it is outside the charter since it is a
modification of the protocol. I myself are not favorable to an
ultra-strict interpretation of the charter so I'll hummmmmm with you.