Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld

Roy Arends <roy@dnss.ec> Mon, 15 June 2020 23:44 UTC

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From: Roy Arends <roy@dnss.ec>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-arends-private-use-tld
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> On 15 Jun 2020, at 22:51, Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> wrote:
> 
> Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> 1. This draft as written takes no formal action to reserve anything
>> for any particular purpose.
> 
> No, but it does make the recommendation to use unreserved space.

No.

This is not unreserved space. This is space reserved, for the user. By the ISO, blessed by RFC1591.

>  But it
> "proposes that nay of them can be used by a network or application for
> private use." [section 5].

Yes, as designed by the original drafters of the ISO3166 standards and used today, as intended, by a wide variety of organisations, including the IETF.

>  Fundamentally, the end effect is the same:
> we recommend you use these "unreserved" code points.

Not unreserved.

>  The net effect in
> real world traffic will likely be the same (by design).

Sure.

>  And the net
> effect in policy will likely be the same: a potential collision that

What?

> forces other organizations to never register them because the defacto
> standard created by this non-registration would be to treat it like it
> was a registration.  [see .onion]

The can never be registered. There is no collision. That is the point of all of this.

Roy