Re: [DNSOP] additional special names Fwd: I-D Action: draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-00.txt

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Wed, 26 February 2014 23:39 UTC

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>Perhaps all that is missing is some guidance that says “you shouldn’t hijack
>namespaces that you don’t control, even for non-DNS applications; register a
>domain instead”.

That's a relatively high bar for all the residential broadband users
who buy a router at Best Buy (Future Shop to you), plug it in, and set
up the router via the configuration page at http://router.home.

What do they get for their $10/yr and extra config hassle that they
would care about?

R's,
John

PS: Don't miss ICANN's latest on this point:

http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-26feb14-en.htm

They commissioned a report that says to reserve .HOME .CORP and .MAIL,
and to do a 120 day wildcard on new domains that returns 127.0.53.53
to alert people to upcoming problems and see what the traffic is.  It
notably does not suggest how to interpret the results after the 120
days.