Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague

Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> Tue, 12 March 2019 09:46 UTC

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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 10:46:35 +0100 (CET)
From: Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Proposal for a side-meeting on services centralization at IETF 104 Prague
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> Il 12 marzo 2019 alle 10.01 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>; ha scritto:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 06:57:03PM +0100,
>  Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com>; wrote 
>  a message of 18 lines which said:
> 
> > Moreover, centralization is not the only Do*-related problem
> > category that has been raised (my draft alone lists eight others).
> 
> IMHO, this is precisely the biggest problem with these three drafts:
> they accumulate a lot of unrelated rants, 

They are not unrelated, they are all effects of the same thing and you cannot deal with them separately, as some practices that would address one of the problems could worsen some of the others. Also, the fact that some of these are not problems for you does not imply that they are not problems for others, and if you want to get consensus, you have to address everyone's concerns and not just yours.

Also, the reason why this is a difficult problem is exactly that it affects many things at once. It is fine to break down the analysis into single issues, but when it comes to what to do next, if you start several parallel work threads without any clear coordination plan, you will just end up with several conflicting proposals.

So, rather than focusing on any specific entry of the list of issues, I think that the most urgent thing to discuss would be where to have the discussion (so that we can stop crossposting entire threads to four groups) and how to organize it (objectives, working items etc.).

Ciao,
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