Re: [DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-04

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com> Wed, 17 November 2010 19:03 UTC

Return-Path: <ajs@shinkuro.com>
X-Original-To: dnsop@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF94B28C0FD for <dnsop@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:03:28 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.616
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.616 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TaZpIiczrkk8 for <dnsop@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:03:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D413828C0F1 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:03:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: from crankycanuck.ca (69-196-144-230.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.144.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDC9C1ECB436 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:04:12 +0000 (UTC)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:04:11 -0500
From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com>
To: dnsop@ietf.org
Message-ID: <20101117190410.GD4174@shinkuro.com>
References: <4CDE6D2D.40805@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> <4819246C-FF1F-456D-9732-51510F0537A1@frobbit.se> <4CE0F829.1010605@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> <7F03C666-16F8-49E4-BC56-F5DD441DD970@frobbit.se> <4CE1A110.1060403@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> <20101115213532.GD322@shinkuro.com> <04856F66-598D-43CC-8164-90178A6F2952@virtualized.org> <4CE283DA.5080606@abenaki.wabanaki.net> <20101116145308.GG1389@shinkuro.com> <4CE3ECA6.7020107@abenaki.wabanaki.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <4CE3ECA6.7020107@abenaki.wabanaki.net>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-04
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:03:28 -0000

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:54:30AM -0500, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:

> A reasonable observation. The responsibility to ensure that the nuances 
> of dependency were correctly noted in the past, or are correctly noted in 
> the present, remain. If only every "i" had been correctly crossed, every 
> "t" correctly dotted...

If that's the issue, then we're in very deep water indeed.  RFCs 1034
and 1035 are not without ambiguity.

> Loosely speaking, there is something that superficially resembles an  
> obligation

I meant it in the simple sense that, given that they're the people
making the policies, they have the responsibility to do certain work.
It's only that sort of implicit obligation, and I'll cheerfully (well,
glumly, but I'm not exactly Tigger) concede that legal ones are
probably not there.

A

-- 
Andrew Sullivan
ajs@shinkuro.com
Shinkuro, Inc.