Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC Strict Mode

Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com> Wed, 24 February 2021 15:15 UTC

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From: Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 10:15:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSSEC Strict Mode
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On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 1:32 AM Ralf Weber <dns@fl1ger.de> wrote:

> Moin!
>
> On 23 Feb 2021, at 16:08, Ben Schwartz wrote:
>
> > Inspired by some recent discussions here (and at DNS-OARC), and
> > hastened by
> > the draft cut-off, I present for your consideration "DNSSEC Strict
> > Mode":
> >
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schwartz-dnsop-dnssec-strict-mode-00
> Interesting read. Some comments:
> - Shouldn’t multiple signatures/algorithms be the exception only used
> when
> migrating to a new one? Having multiple algorithms as the norm seems
> wrong,
> but I’m not a crypto person so would be interest if this is used
> somewhere.
>

In TLS, servers and clients almost always support several different
ciphersuites, and perform a secure negotiation to select one that they both
support.  Strict Mode is the static equivalent of secure ciphersuite
negotiation.


> - In DNSSEC or DNS in general you have to think about the whole domain
> tree.
>

I've added a note on this the editor's draft.

More broadly, I think Strict Mode makes sense throughout the tree.  For
example, if we find ourselves in a position where quantum advances raise
concerns about RSA, and postquantum signatures are available but still new,
it might make sense to double-sign the root.


> - DNSSEC validators are already absurdly complex, this is yet another
> straw
> on the camels back IMHO.
>
> So long
> -Ralf
> ——-
> Ralf Weber
>
>