Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-05.txt
"Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Fri, 07 April 2017 18:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-05.txt
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(I'm surprised our philosophy-minded folks didn't answer this. I'll take a stab, acknowledging that I'm only a philosophy tourist.) On 30 Mar 2017, at 13:41, Andrew McConachie wrote: > If a domain name is made up of labels, and labels are made up of > octets, then can there be non-digital representations of domain names? Yes. The octets in the labels can be encoded into writing systems, and there can be a commonly-recognized display format for the representation of a group of labels. > For example, if I spray paint 'www.example' on the side of a bus, is > it not a domain name because it is made up of paint instead of octets? It is a rendering (in paint, on a bus) a domain name in a commonly-accepted display format. Neither the paint nor the bus is the domain name. Some history related to representation versus essence: https://essenceofbuddhism.wordpress.com/2016/04/19/what-the-finger-pointing-to-the-moon-analogy-really-means-from-zen-buddhism-the-buddha-in-the-shurangama-sutra/ > I don't see anything in this document restricting the terms to 'on the > wire' definitions. So I assume that the scope of 'domain name' > includes non-digital instantiations. Perhaps what's needed isn't so > much a new definition for label, but clarification on the scope of > these terms and their definitions. I'm not sure that us going into the ontology of domain names would help someone reading the document. --Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Andrew McConachie
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- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Andrew McConachie
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-terminol… Paul Vixie