Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dns-recursive-discovery-00
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Tue, 20 October 2009 23:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dns-recursive-discovery-00
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In message <82ljj61gle.fsf@mid.bfk.de>, Florian Weimer writes: > * Alex Bligh: > > > Could you amplify a bit on this one? I think what you are saying is > > that recursive servers which do not support DOMAIN.LOCAL.ARPA > > (and hence don't strip it out of any response to a recursive > > query) can be subject to poisoning attacks which will result in > > duff nameserver records being sent to clients that are aware > > of the protocol. > > I was alluding to this: > > ; <<>> DiG 9.5.1-P3 <<>> @208.67.222.222 DOMAIN.LOCAL.ARPA > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: printcmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 44816 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;DOMAIN.LOCAL.ARPA. IN A > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > DOMAIN.LOCAL.ARPA. 0 IN A 67.215.65.132 > > ;; Query time: 41 msec > ;; SERVER: 208.67.222.222#53(208.67.222.222) > ;; WHEN: Tue Oct 20 13:12:32 2009 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 51 > > And 67.215.65.132 does not offer DNS service. > > > I think that is indeed a security concern, and perhaps not > > one that can be brushed aside with the response "but such > > servers can have any DNS query made to them poisoned anyway". > > ARPA will soon be signed, so I don't think this is much to worry > about. If the powers that be finally agree to make NXDOMAIN/NODATA > synthesis the default in the upcoming minor DNSSEC revision, this will > also help to cut down the number of requests. And LOCAL.ARPA would need to be a unsigned delegation. > -- = > > Florian Weimer <fweimer@bfk.de> > BFK edv-consulting GmbH http://www.bfk.de/ > Kriegsstra=DFe 100 tel: +49-721-96201-1 > D-76133 Karlsruhe fax: +49-721-96201-99 > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-be… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification fordraft… George Barwood
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification fordraft… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Alex Bligh
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… bmanning
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Alex Bligh
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Alex Bligh
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Florian Weimer
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Alex Bligh
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Ray.Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Alex Bligh
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draf… bmanning