[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt
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A couple of issues I noticed; 1. The text added to R2 in section 3.1 refers to Appendix C, but it includes an Editor's Note that it will be removed, leaving this as a dangling reference. The Editor's Note should probably be removed. 2. Also, maybe R5 should have text similar to R3 with "...the minimum of...the interface MTU, the network MTU...and 1400 bytes..." Instead of "It should use a limit of 1400 bytes, but a smaller limit MAY be used." Thanks On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 2:52 PM Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > (please note I'm sending this to DNSOP and V6OPS) > > All > > The authors have addressed the comments made during the IESG process and > feedback from DNS implementers, and have published version 18. > The links for the diff are mentioned below. I will point out the > additional introduction paragraph added in this version: > > This document was originally intended to be a BCP, but due to > operating system and socket option limitations, some of the > recommendations have not yet gained real-world experience and > therefore the document is published as Informational. It is hoped > and expected that, as operating systems and implementations evolve, > we will gain more experience with the recommendations, and plan to > publish an updated document as a Best Current Practice. > > > Speaking as one who wears many hats, I am OK with this and feel this > document is the first step in documenting best practices on fragmentation > with DNS. > I am always hoping to be proven incorrect. > > We will elicit feedback on this latest and we feel the final update. We > will discuss with Mr Warren tomorrow during our Chairs call if he has other > concerns. > > thanks > tim > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > Date: Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:47 AM > Subject: New Version Notification - > draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt > To: <benno@nlnetlabs.nl>, <swoolf@pir.org>, <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>, < > warren@kumari.net> > > > > A new version (-18) has been submitted for > draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt > > > The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation/ > > Diff from previous version: > > https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18 > > IETF Secretariat. > > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list -- v6ops@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to v6ops-leave@ietf.org > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
- [DNSOP] Fwd: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Not… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-iet… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification… David Farmer
- [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft… Petr Špaček
- [DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notifica… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notifica… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notifica… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notifica… Geoff Huston
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Nick Hilliard
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Petr Špaček
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Jared Mauch
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… David Farmer
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification… Tim Wicinski
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… Petr Špaček
- [DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Noti… David Farmer