Re: [DNSOP] Fundamental ANAME problems

Paul Ebersman <list-dnsop@dragon.net> Sun, 04 November 2018 15:56 UTC

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Comments: In-reply-to Ray Bellis <ray@bellis.me.uk> message dated "Sun, 04 Nov 2018 20:02:38 +0700."
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ray> HTTP Redirects cause the URI in the address bar to be changed.  A
ray> lot of the whole "CNAME at the Apex" issue arises because lots of
ray> marketing people don't want end users to have to type *or see* the
ray> www prefix.

ray> Those folks aren't going to stand for their nice clean
ray> "example.com" URL getting replaced with the real CDN address in the
ray> address bar.

Last I heard, they're taking care of this by taking away the address bar
completely. You and I will have to set some kind of debug mode to ever
see this. So that in and of itself isn't a deal breaker. But let's get
comment from the firefox/chrome folks. I agree with you that we're
having some productive back and forth. I think that we've learned some but
not all of each other's spaces.