Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?

Patrick Mevzek <mevzek@uniregistry.com> Wed, 07 November 2018 15:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?
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On 2018-11-05 06:10 -0500, Vladimír Čunát wrote:
> On 11/2/18 10:41 PM, Evan Hunt wrote:
>> Speaking as a co-author of ANAME, I agree about this. URI, SRV, a proposed
>> new HTTP RRtype, whatever - service lookup is absolutely the correct way to
>> accomplish this goal.
>>
>> However, browser vendors are *not doing that*, and I've given up hope that
>> they ever will. Trying to out-stubborn them has been ineffective.
> 
> Yes, but I can understand that they're not too inclined - I believe it's
> not easy to portably get information about such RRTYPEs from the OS
> resolver, e.g. I can't see a way in POSIX.

It seems there is a clear movement from many browsers to use DOH now for 
DNS matters.

At which point they are able to get all DNS data in its full glory 
without any kind of OS or underlying libraries limitations, and hence 
could use SRV records like any other clients are doing for other protocols.
-- 
Patrick Mevzek