[DNSOP] Re: [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171

Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com> Thu, 27 June 2024 11:59 UTC

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From: Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>
To: Joe Abley <jabley@strandkip.nl>
Thread-Topic: [DNSOP] [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support Bundle Protocol RFC9171
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Hi Joe,

That definitely allows option 2.  The question is does option 2 work for the DNSOPS Designated Experts and Scott.

Cheers,
Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley@strandkip.nl]
> Sent: 27 June 2024 12:16
> To: Rick Taylor
> Cc: Scott Johnson; Erik Kline; dnsop; sburleig.sb@gmail.com; dtn@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [dtn] Re: Re: Re: Re: IPN and CLA RRTYPEs to support
> Bundle Protocol RFC9171
> 
> Hi Rick,
> 
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 10:46, Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > <chair hat on>
> >
> > I absolutely sympathise with your need to "grab an RRTYPE and make
> progress", but there is a process choice to be made here:
> >
> > * Do DNSOPS want the RRTYPE registrations to integrate with the wider work
> of the DTN working group?  In which case discussion like this must continue,
> and the document should be adopted by the WG.
> > * Or is everyone happy to register the RRTYPEs as "ScottJ and colleagues
> need some unique RRTYPEs for the solution they're working on - no alignment
> with the wider work of the DTN WG implied"?  I would propose calling the
> RRTYPE NODEID not IPN to make this clear, and not have the reference
> specification be an IETF document.
> 
> Speaking only as a recent reader of BCP 42 / RFC 6895, section 3.1 contains the
> guidance you are looking for. Consensus from the dnsop working group is not
> required, although as you have seen opinions are freely available.
> Specifications in the form of IETF documents are also not required to reserve a
> codepoint.
> 
> 
> Joe