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Did you mean to say the following? > > Arrgh - Guilty and thank you for that. UDP responders should compose response response packets with a maximum UDP > payload size that fits in the minimum > of the offered requestor's maximum UDP payload size, [RFC6891], the > interface MTU, the network MTU value configured by the knowledge of the > network operators, > and the RECOMMENDED maximum DNS/UDP payload size 1400. You say "response response" in your text, but yes yes that was where I was going with it. Paul, does this give the future proofing you were thinking of? David - is that text for R5 more in line? thanks tim --000000000000461403061c75a354 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Geoff,

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I think you appear to be getting "requestor" and "responder&= quot; confused in your proposed text. Did you mean to say the following?

Arrgh - Guilty and thank you for that.

UDP responders should compose response response packets with a maximum UDP = payload size that fits in the minimum
of the offered requestor's maximum UDP payload size, [RFC6891], the int= erface MTU, the network MTU value configured by the knowledge of the networ= k operators,
and the RECOMMENDED maximum DNS/UDP payload size 1400.
You say= "response response" in your text, but yes yes that was where I w= as going with it.

Paul, does this give the future proofing you were thinking of?

David - is that text= for R5 more in line?

thanks
tim

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