[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion, draft-ietf-dnsop-qdcount-is-one progress…
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Hi there, authors and WG. I recently wrote up a summary of the process for authors who are new to the IETF. While doing so, I realized that it might be useful to share this even with experienced authors as well (and also WGs) , so here is a (very) brief overview of the process: After the WG chairs declare consensus and complete the document shepherd writeup, they request publication and the document enters the AD (my) queue. I then perform my "AD Review" — this involves reviewing the document, checking the document shepherd writeup and also doing a ballot writeup. I will likely have a bunch of editorial comments and nits during the AD review; addressing these before the IETF LC and IESG eval helps the document more through the process more smoothly. Apart from just being polite to the reader, if someone has a hard time reading a document (or find lots of nits) they get irritated and grumpy towards the document :-) After comments (if any) are addressed, I request IETF Last Call. Assuming there is consensus, after comments (if any) have been addressed, I progress the document to IESG Evaluation. *** This is where draft-ietf-dnsop-qdcount-is-one and draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion are now *** This is where the entire IESG reviews the document, paying special attention to conflicts with their area, etc. Note that you will get comments during this evaluation; ADs review the document carefully, and will likely have some questions, but also, because they are reviewing carefully, you will likely get a bunch of editorial type comments and suggestions. This is also where you may get DISCUSS ballots on the document — these used to be concerning to authors, and so I wrote a blog post to help explain how to deal with them: https://www.ietf.org/blog/handling-iesg-ballot-positions/ (and a slightly more formal rewrite: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ ). The key takeaway is that, even though DISCUSSes *are* blocking positions, and you have to address them, they are called 'DISCUSS' for a reason - they are intended to result in a DISCUSSion with the discussing AD. Once the DISCUSS positions and comments are addressed, the document is then sent to the RFC Editor for final editing (grammar, spelling, etc). At this point all listed authors are required to approve publication (this is called AUTH48), and then it finally becomes an RFC. I'm mentioning all of this because there is still a fair bit of process that needs to happen; much of this is on the AD (me), but there is still some work for the authors, and it will still take some time. I wanted to help explain the process and also set expectations. If you'd like more info on how the process works, etc, here are some (hopefully helpful) resources: 1: Scott Bradner’s “IETF: Publishing an RFC” - https://youtu.be/j3Toe4P9Pa8?list=PLC86T-6ZTP5hXPJ-n4mwJbZ0BHaNlhTMA . This is part of Scott's "Newcomers" series ( https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC86T-6ZTP5hXPJ-n4mwJbZ0BHaNlhTMA) 2: The IETF Process - an informal guide: https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/informal/ 3: The Tao of the IETF: https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tao/ 4: A convoluted state diagram: https://static.ietf.org/dt/12.11.0/ietf/images/iesg-draft-state-diagram.png I'm also (of course) happy to answer any questions, etc., W
- [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion, draft-ietf-… Warren Kumari
- [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion doesn't hand… John R. Levine
- [DNSOP] Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion maybe do… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion maybe do… Hugo Salgado