Re: [DNSOP] Obsoleting DLV

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 07 July 2019 06:58 UTC

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Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 02:58:20 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Obsoleting DLV
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The chairs discussed this and the "process" moving documents to Historic is
varied based on the documentation.
(https://www.ietf.org/blog/iesg-statement-designating-rfcs-historic/).
We've assigned our IESG Overlord to do what
IESG Overlords do in these situations.  From reading the available options,
this chair prefers option #2, which
involves a small amount of work on the working group, and then hands it
over to our AD.

Once the chairs are given a sign, we'll let all know.

tim

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:31 AM Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:13 PM Matthijs Mekking <matthijs@pletterpet.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> A while back I was asked why BIND 9 still had code to do DLV. Good
>> question, and we asked our users if they would mind if we remove the
>> code. Almost everyone was okay with that.
>>
>> So ISC plans to deprecate the feature in BIND 9.  But also I think it is
>> time to move the protocol to Historic status as a clear signal to
>> everyone that it should no longer be implemented or deployed.
>>
>> Dan Mahoney cleared the only well-known DLV registry almost two years
>> ago. Here's a draft with discussion why also the protocol should go
>> away. We would like to hear what you think about it.
>>
>> I think that it's worth going forward.
>
> ISC BIND commit:
>
> https://github.com/isc-projects/bind9/commit/f29359299aaab519f39b090cd83de85cd2fc3820
>
>
>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Matthijs
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> A new version of I-D, draft-mekking-dnsop-obsolete-dlv-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Matthijs Mekking and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:     draft-mekking-dnsop-obsolete-dlv
>> Revision: 00
>> Title:    Moving DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) to Historic Status
>> Pages:    5
>> Status:
>>
>>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mekking-dnsop-obsolete-dlv/
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    This document obsoletes DNSSEC lookaside validation (DLV) and
>>    reclassifies RFCs 4431 and 5074 as Historic.
>>
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