Re: [DNSOP] DNS HTTPS/SVCB record type support in iOS 14

Jana Iyengar <jri.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 26 September 2020 01:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNS HTTPS/SVCB record type support in iOS 14
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Thanks for sharing this, Tommy -- this is exciting indeed.
Can you share if Safari uses this information for deciding when to race a
QUIC connection?

- jana

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 1:19 PM Tommy Pauly <tpauly=
40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Sorry for the lack of clarity! The HTTPS query will be made alongside
> A/AAAA queries for all connections that use Network.framework/NSURLSession
> for URL schemes “http://“ and “https://“, or TCP port 80 or port 443.
>
> Thanks,
> Tommy
>
> On Sep 25, 2020, at 1:12 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tommy,
>
> Thanks for the announcement! It's really exciting to see this deployed in
> the wild.
> Clarification question: your email mentioned support for the HTTPS DNS
> query,
> but it didn't mention when iOS makes those queries. For example, do you
> query
> this record every single time you perform A/AAAA queries? (in the context
> of
> a Network.framework connection to port 443)
>
> David
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:59 PM Tommy Pauly <tpauly=
> 40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello DNSOP & QUIC,
>>
>> I wanted to provide an update that the production version of iOS 14,
>> which shipped last week, includes support for sending HTTPS (SVCB) DNS
>> queries (RR type 65) for applications using our system networking APIs.
>>
>> The implementation status has been updated here:
>> https://github.com/MikeBishop/dns-alt-svc/blob/master/svcb-implementations.md
>>
>> For those with HTTP/3 QUIC deployments, this means that (when HTTP/3
>> experimental support is enabled) iOS will use the ALPN indication in the
>> HTTPS record to enable HTTP/3 prior to receiving an Alt-Svc indication. As
>> previously noted on the DNSOP list, Cloudflare is already supporting
>> publishing these records, and we’d encourage other server deployments that
>> support QUIC to do the same.
>>
>> To note, this behavior is the same in the betas of macOS 11.
>>
>> Best,
>> Tommy
>>
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