[DNSOP] Re: Call for Adoption: draft-davies-internal-tld

Libor Peltan <libor.peltan@nic.cz> Tue, 29 April 2025 07:53 UTC

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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: Call for Adoption: draft-davies-internal-tld
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Hi all,

I am for adopting this document in dnsop, and further work on its 
contents to aim for some consensus.

I can see three main topics to discuss:

1) addition to IANA SUDN registry -- I am for the addition, while 
clearly documenting the purpose and methods.

2) contents of the root zone -- I have no strong opinion here, probably 
"nothing" can be there (meaning proof of non-existence of that name); 
insecure delegation to a dummy target might be more practical in some 
cases, but perhaps harder to agree on.

3) special behavior of nameservers -- I am against any such 
requirements. Any DNS servers (authoritative, recursive, forwarders etc) 
should follow their normal procedures and probably end up resolving 
internal names with negative result.

Libor

CZ.NIC, Knot DNS

On 15. 04. 25 10:38, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> All,
>
> At IETF 122, there appeared to be some agreement to adopt this work 
> within DNSOP.
>
> Below are the relevant meeting minutes and a link to the presentation 
> from the session:
>
> A Top-level Domain for Private Use, Warren Kumari
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davies-internal-tld/
>         Ted: Should work on this
>         Tommy Jensen: Work on here
>                 Consider that libraries MAY treat it as special to 
> catch things
>                 from going upstream
>         Stuart Cheshire: Agree with logic, should be listed in registry
>         Jim: Not for IETF because ICANN told us what to do
>                 Maybe figure out the process
>                 Thanks for bearing with all the machinations
>         Mark: Locally served registry requires that the names have 
> insecure
>         delegations in the DNS
>                 Bring-your-own-devices work because of this insecure 
> validation
>         Suzanne: How much work is needed?
>                 Warren: Almost no work
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/122/materials/slides-122-dnsop-sessa-draft-davies-internal-tld-a-top-level-domain-for-private-use-00 
>
>
>
> Warren Kumari has responded to some of the questions raised at the mic 
> during the session in an email to the mailing list.
>
> This email begins a Call for Adoption for draft-davies-internal-tld, 
> "A Top-level Domain for Private Use."
>
> You can find the draft here: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davies-internal-tld/
>
> Please review the draft and share your thoughts on the mailing list, 
> clearly stating whether you support its adoption by DNSOP. Also let us 
> know if you are willing to contribute text, provide reviews, or help 
> in other ways.
>
> Due to the Easter holiday, we are extending the usual timeline for 
> this call.
>
> The Call for Adoption will end on May 2, 2025.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> For DNSOP co-chairs
> -- Benno
>
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