Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-sury-deprecate-obsolete-resource-records-00.txt

william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com> Thu, 29 March 2018 06:30 UTC

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From: william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:30:23 -0700
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To: Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-sury-deprecate-obsolete-resource-records-00.txt
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my mailbox is not filled with crap from spammers, if that is what you
mean.  it's not empty either. :)
if you want to kill off NSAP-PTR, I'd support that.

/Wm

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 26 March 2018 at 16:42, Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Ondřej Surý wrote:
>>
>>> No, I am claiming that no current Internet standard is using those
>>> records and they were already marked as EXPERIMENTAL or OBSOLETE 30
>>> years ago.
>>>
>>
>> the original specification of these RR types is still in effect,
>> regardless of whether any other specification currently specifies whether
>> to use them..
>>
>> i don't entirely disagree that the Internet System definition ought to be
>> a window, adding new things and deleting old things as it marches down the
>> years.
>>
>> but if you want to deprecate something that somebody somewhere may still
>> be using, then it's because the definition for it is still in effect --
>> thus neither experimental nor obsolete as you begin.
>>
>> the process for doing so is more than reaching consensus on this working
>> group. figure out a schedule that includes outreach.
>
>
>
> This hypothetical somebody somewhere has already had 30 years warning that
> these RR's will disappear or be replaced by something better.
>
> Deprecation signals end of life, end of support, end of story.
>
> To speak of outreach in this particular case is a nonsense; your
> hypothetical friend has been ignoring the real world for 30 years, and
> nothing drops into his mailbox these days.
>
>
>
>
>> --
>> P Vixie
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