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Re: [DNSOP] Draft for dynamic discovery of secure resolvers

Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> Tue, 21 August 2018 10:40 UTC

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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2018 12:40:40 +0200 (CEST)
From: Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com>
To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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> Il 20 agosto 2018 alle 20.11 Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> ha scritto:
> the DOH people should be told not to proceed to draft 
> standard until their design accommodates the needs of network operators.

This is, honestly, what I'd have expected the "IETF leadership" (IESG, IAB...) to say: this new protocol would have a significant impact on how the Internet works, there are conflicting views in different parts of the IETF community and a lot of non-technical concerns outside of it, please work on it until everyone is happy. But possibly I don't understand how the IETF works yet.

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