Re: [DNSOP] [perpass] draft-hzhwm-start-tls-for-dns-00: Starting TLS over DNS

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@gmail.com> Sat, 15 February 2014 18:38 UTC

Return-Path: <paul.hoffman@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECB01A0274; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:38:38 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.999
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 800xsc-XpHFU; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:38:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-vc0-x234.google.com (mail-vc0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAAC1A026E; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:38:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id ks9so10055996vcb.25 for <multiple recipients>; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:38:34 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4Kb8fL1PsJv5jjlXkrxe2b2Ziby4dm9GhfrSo1bCPaM=; b=h6kaMvJLVyWqniK4j21FFupnf103zH+V+t4uk8ro3M3ETUyVNDXilUMAnVJMiSe6RG IDbohCVwOUyMgpJ0ky4jJkmzi/QywtZ0Ql8f5qEo1HFe7kO84abKCqSj18WCvXvVW8Q/ Z2YzdYre6D9CIJCcBONweArLiewtQ4Ed10o5E4LMjin4EWztEVMjmc4gIrwdkjUgbVqK VMAJYdKCXajMrjisRma5wTdH21uixbZ20Ep0p21Uk33SOc92mRUFDgV8Rv8pUsK+UT1o 8DQDnePj5cFtVWFl565nkw5lLwnwlTDLOLgvhLCnrWCHOzNqm8VPZPEC32FEQpoiurEu +Qhw==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.52.191.9 with SMTP id gu9mr5161882vdc.37.1392489514064; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:38:34 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.220.104.8 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:38:34 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <52FFAD1E.1040509@redbarn.org>
References: <CAESS1RPh+UK+r=JzZ9nE_DUqcvNtZiS6TNt1CDN-C0uiU7HP=A@mail.gmail.com> <52FEF407.30405@redbarn.org> <20140215140133.GA6990@sources.org> <CACsn0cn=B201xpoMLhEpwhj_NRtG64zQQyoS7eCf_8-0cmeHFQ@mail.gmail.com> <52FFAD1E.1040509@redbarn.org>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:38:34 -0800
Message-ID: <CAPik8ybjFoG7WAjEmR5Gpe0GXt2qECBws0QNPu3DQ7uSOOWG0A@mail.gmail.com>
From: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@gmail.com>
To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a00cad6e27d04f2763a65
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/CQi6ZDQoDJiA8uBGNMxy7x_4bAQ
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:51:55 -0800
Cc: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>, dnsop@ietf.org, perpass <perpass@ietf.org>, Zi Hu <zihu@usc.edu>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [perpass] draft-hzhwm-start-tls-for-dns-00: Starting TLS over DNS
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:38:38 -0000

Cherry-picking the worst of the assertions...


On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote:

> has mr. bernstein's Curve25519 (see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curve25519) been explicitly validated by
> other crypto experts?


Yes.


> last i knew he was the only one claiming it was
> correct and strong enough for production use.


It has been widely discussed with no papers showing any flaws at all.

The crypto is not in question: the rest of the protocol is.

--Paul Hoffman