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Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org] New Version Notification for draft-hardaker-dnsop-intentionally-temporary-insec-00.txt

Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com> Tue, 23 February 2021 18:20 UTC

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 13:20:38 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org] New Version Notification for draft-hardaker-dnsop-intentionally-temporary-insec-00.txt
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I also think that this is not appropriate as a Best Practice.  I would
suggest reversing this draft to make it operational guidance to
implementers about how to enable compliance with RFC 6781 Section 4.1.4.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:26 PM Vladimír Čunát <vladimir.cunat+ietf@nic.cz>
wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I'm certainly not fond of trying to call this "best practice".
> I'd rather try persuading people to either improve such tooling or
> switch production to another one, but I understand that in real life
> there are cases where the proposed approach may be considered a better
> choice than a proper rollover.
>
> --Vladimir @ knot-resolver.cz
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