Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt> (The .onion Special-Use Domain Name) to Proposed Standard
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 14 July 2015 20:53 UTC
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 22:50:20 +0200
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00.txt> (The .onion Special-Use Domain Name) to Proposed Standard
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On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 01:16:41PM -0700, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote a message of 206 lines which said: > I believe that .onion is, essentially, a way for structuring > protocol addresses so that they appear to be DNS names. It does not > conform to the delegation model of the DNS, It does not have to conform since .onion is a domain name, not a DNS name. The whole point of this "registration" is to avoid leaks in the DNS (section 2 of the draft). > This does not describe special handling _within the DNS_, but > instead removes a portion of the global namespace from the DNS at > all. Same thing for RFC 6762 (which was the first applictaion of RFC 6761, and nobody objected about it).
- [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tld-00… The IESG
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Hardie
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Bob Harold
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Hugo Maxwell Connery
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… hellekin
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Rubens Kuhl
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Francisco Obispo
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Francisco Obispo
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Francisco Obispo
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Francisco Obispo
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- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Tom Ritter
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Edward Lewis
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… David Conrad
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- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [DNSOP] Stability of identifiers (Was: Last C… joel jaeggli
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- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Hugo Maxwell Connery
- [DNSOP] Stability of identifiers (Was: Last Call:… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Eliot Lear
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Stephane Bortzmeyer
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- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Eliot Lear
- [DNSOP] namespace control (was Re: Last Call: <dr… David Conrad
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- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Rubens Kuhl
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… David Conrad
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… joel jaeggli
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft-iet… Hugo Maxwell Connery
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Hugo Maxwell Connery
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Paul Vixie
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- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Paul Vixie
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- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… joel jaeggli
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Hugo Maxwell Connery
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Christian Grothoff
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- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… Steve Crocker
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- Re: [DNSOP] what's in .alt, was Last Call: <draft… David Cake
- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Eliot Lear
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- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Hardie
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- Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-dnsop-onion-tl… Ted Hardie
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