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[DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidated Data during DNSSEC Troubleshooting (draft-zhang-dnsop-dnssec-unvalidated-data-00)

Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> Wed, 07 May 2025 17:41 UTC

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Hi Paul,

> On 7. 5. 2025, at 19:13, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
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> Which DNS resolvers are currently misimplementing things for this to be a concern?


I think they are referring to: https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/5066

Also see my comment here: https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/5066#note_525823

Ondrej
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