Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts

Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Thu, 20 February 2020 23:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts
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On Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:15:17 UTC Evan Hunt wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 09:29:31AM +0100, Matthijs Mekking wrote:
> > ANAME was supposed to solve the CNAME at the apex problem and mitigate
> > against DNS vendor lock in. Both SVCB and HTTPSSCV do not fix this
> > problem.
> 
> ...
> 
> If browser folks *are* doing something more sensible now, as appears to
> be the case, then we no longer have the problem ANAME was meant to solve,
> and I'm content to let it pass into history.

noting that i am about to ask the browser community to remove their port 
number from httpsvc, i otherwise agree entirely with evan's words above.

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Paul