Re: [DNSOP] Draft -domain-names-01

Alain Durand <alain.durand@icann.org> Tue, 03 November 2015 07:50 UTC

Return-Path: <alain.durand@icann.org>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F6B1A0264 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:50:55 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.43
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.43 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gLvW_Z9olP6E for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:50:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from out.west.pexch112.icann.org (pfe112-ca-1.pexch112.icann.org [64.78.40.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E8AC1AC39F for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:50:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org (64.78.40.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1044.25; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:50:48 -0800
Received: from PMBX112-W1-CA-1.pexch112.icann.org ([64.78.40.21]) by PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG ([64.78.40.21]) with mapi id 15.00.1044.021; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 23:50:48 -0800
From: Alain Durand <alain.durand@icann.org>
To: Tim WIcinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [DNSOP] Draft -domain-names-01
Thread-Index: AQHREwVkl+Abwf0rI0iIbqxdzTcep56Kdb8A//986uA=
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 07:50:47 +0000
Message-ID: <A8766957-815D-43BD-92BB-07017440C167@icann.org>
References: <D258CB42.108E9%edward.lewis@icann.org>, <563864CE.3080904@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <563864CE.3080904@gmail.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A8766957815D43BD92BB07017440C167icannorg_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/DN8N6xmmL64CgY3Dxe8O0RpR1Gk>
Cc: "dnsop@ietf.org" <dnsop@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Draft -domain-names-01
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 07:50:55 -0000

Ed's document is not about DNS but about names. That is actually the whole point. So, IMHO, it should not be redirected to a wg that needs better understanding of DNS but to a wg that needs better understanding of names...

I could also argue that this argument also applies to the discussion on  issues around 6761. There is little DNS specific there, let alone DNS operational...

Alain

On Nov 3, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Tim WIcinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:tjw.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:


I spoke to Ed this morning during breakfast, and we discussed his draft.  I do like this as a well written read through the history of namespace and domains, but I feel (and I think Ed even would agree) this is not so much a DNSOP document, but something that should be in an area where they need a better understanding of DNS (*cough* appsawg *cough*).

How does the working group think of this?

thanks
tim

On 10/30/15 8:23 PM, Edward Lewis wrote:

A while back I floated a draft across this mail list and got (what I
think) is sufficient (perhaps not the right word) feedback from the WG.  I
updated the document and resubmitted.  FWIW, this is the document link:
        https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lewis-domain-names-01

I'm not even asking for comment on the list (but you can if you want).
When I rev'd the document, I didn't mention it on this list (until now).

What I'm asking for is - when in Yokohama, if you have an interest in this
I'm willing to discuss.

The issue in the document is both internal to DNS and external to DNS, I'm
looking for broader input (such as applications area topics).

Ed




_______________________________________________
DNSOP mailing list
DNSOP@ietf.org<mailto:DNSOP@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop


_______________________________________________
DNSOP mailing list
DNSOP@ietf.org<mailto:DNSOP@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop