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Re: [DNSOP] [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-v6ops-xie-network-happyeyeballs-00.txt

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Tue, 25 September 2018 07:20 UTC

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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:20:15 +0200
From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Davey Song <songlinjian@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-v6ops-xie-network-happyeyeballs-00.txt
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Hi,

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:30:05AM +0800, Davey Song wrote:
> Before I put down this draft, I talked with some CPs (content/app
> providers) and ISPs, they have motivations and requirement on this.  One
> example is Tencent, they are planning to deploy a complicated measurement
> network to info their Apps (with a SDK ) which address family they should
> try first (their apps use dns over http).  I'm told that Tencent think HE
> implemented on each client is too complicated (they have comlicated apps)
> and resource consuming. 

This hints at a general misunderstanding on how "The Internet" works.

Talking to the local ISP on "what would you recommend, IPv4 or IPv6?"
can give an indication, but if the server you're trying to talk to 
is on the other side of the world, the local ISP's preference for 
IPv4-vs-IPv6 might be the opposite of what actually works better to
reach said server.  There are many networks on the path...

Gert Doering
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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