Re: [DNSOP] New draft for ALIAS/ANAME type
"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 31 March 2017 18:01 UTC
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:01:03 -0500
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] New draft for ALIAS/ANAME type
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> This gets you a single lookup with no followup queries required > once the recursive server supports this. If the client is still > talking to a legacy server it would still need to do followup queries > for missing records. I like this but there's an obvious question: if the recursive server has to know about ANAME anyway, have the it do the extra fetches, and all of the DNSSEC troubles go away. Straw man, er, straw being: name ANAME canonname servername rrtype1 rrtype2 ... If the authoritative server gets a request for one of the rrtypes, it returns the ANAME. (If it gets a request for a type that isn't in the ANAME and there isn't a real RR, it returns the usual NOERROR.) The cache sees the ANAME and looks up the canonname from the server at servername (with "." as the servername default to look it up in the usual way.) Putting an actual rrtypeI at the same name as the ANAME is naughty, like putting it at the same name as a CNAME. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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- Re: [DNSOP] New draft for ALIAS/ANAME type Richard Gibson
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- Re: [DNSOP] New draft for ALIAS/ANAME type Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] New draft for ALIAS/ANAME type John Levine
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