Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Lameness terminology (was: Status of draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis)

Frederico A C Neves <fneves@registro.br> Thu, 03 May 2018 22:41 UTC

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From: Frederico A C Neves <fneves@registro.br>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Lameness terminology (was: Status of draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis)
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On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 10:27:30PM +0000, David Huberman wrote:
> Mark Andrews stated:
> 
> >It’s amazing how fast people can fix lame delegations once email and other 
> >services stop flowing. The only reason you think it is un- winnable is that you 
> >are unwilling to remove the delegation for failing to maintain a properly 
> >working configuration. 
> 
> Ideally, yes – of course.
> 
> But in practical terms, when any type of registry strips away a lame delegation
> attached to a real, operating network with users behind it, and things break
> as a result, it has a high potential of affecting the innocent 3rd parties using that
> network.  Especially at scale, the legal liability issues implicated by such an action
> are frightening, and quickly outweigh the ‘for the common good’ arguments. 

As long as there is community support Mark's observation works as
expected.

Slightly variatios of this policy are in place for LACNIC and APNIC
regions and is very effective.

http://www.lacnic.net/686/2/lacnic/6-lame-delegation-policy
https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/reverse-dns/lame-dns-reverse-delegation/

Fred