Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt

Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com> Thu, 25 July 2019 17:14 UTC

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From: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>
To: Martin Hoffmann <martin@opennetlabs.com>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt
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> I still maintain that having descriptive terms should be preferable
over an abundance of abbreviations, particular in documents. In this
case, why not "classic DNS" or "traditional DNS"? Likewise, "encrypted
DNS" instead of DoTH.

I agree with "encrypted DNS" because that makes the meaning (DoH or DoT or X : X is some new way to encrypt DNS) clear when it is intended, and saying DoH/DoT when that is really intended (just those two and not any other encrypted version of DNS) isn't that burdensome. DoTH can be confused with some new specific protocol "DNS over T____ H____" since that's what the other Do* patterns indicate.

However, I think Do53 makes sense as it includes any use of DNS over port 53 and fits the Do* pattern used by other DNS protocols. This would only become confusing in the event we end up introducing an encrypted DNS protocol that also operates over port 53 which seems incredibly unlikely.

Thanks,
Tommy
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From: DNSOP <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org>; on behalf of Martin Hoffmann <martin@opennetlabs.com>;
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To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>;
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt

Paul Hoffman wrote:
> Do53 was invented as a way of saying "DNS format and transport as
> described in RFC 1034 and RFC 1035, with updates". If anyone has a
> better shorthand for that than "Do53", that's great. I believe a
> shorthand is needed, particularly for publications that are
> discussiong multiple transports.

I still maintain that having descriptive terms should be preferable
over an abundance of abbreviations, particular in documents. In this
case, why not "classic DNS" or "traditional DNS"? Likewise, "encrypted
DNS" instead of DoTH.

Kind regards,
Martin

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