Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-01.txt

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Thu, 21 February 2019 12:25 UTC

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From: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-01.txt
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Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> > On 21 Feb 2019, at 6:30 am, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote:
> >
> > Does it need to be per-record? Why not GC the whole RRset?
>
> Because there are scenarios where you do want to GC as single
> record from the RRset. AD has them with SRV.  Each server adds
> its own SRV record to the RRset.

Oh I see, that makes sense. Things like this need explaining in the
document.

Why not simplify the RDATA format so there is just one item per record,
instead of containing a list of lists? Aren't the individual items going
to be added/removed independently of each other?

Tony.
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