Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 03 July 2020 22:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Brian Dickson wrote:
> It makes clear the difference between implied and inferred.
> The flag clearly indicates that some glue which would otherwise be
> considered necessary has not been sent.

That sounds a lot like the TC flag.  I realize that some people have 
interpreted the TC flag to mean something else, but I think its actual 
meaning is pretty clear.

> Additionally, the flag would signal compliance with updated 1035, for
> starters.

This would in effect be a version number.  Our experience with version 
numbers in old protocols has not been great.

> Also, it would facilitate lower effort in figuring out if a TC is referral
> related or not, which could be important for implementers/operators doing
> large scale stuff.

I don't understand this.  Caches surely already know when a response is a 
referral.  If a referral response has TC set, in what way could that not 
be referral related?

> Most importantly, this is all about interoperability, including not just
> the wire format but the operational signaling.

Turning on bits that have been zero for 35 years doesn't have a great 
history of interop, either.  Look at the history of queries with EDNS0 
never getting a response.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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