Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt
John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 03 July 2020 22:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Brian Dickson wrote: > It makes clear the difference between implied and inferred. > The flag clearly indicates that some glue which would otherwise be > considered necessary has not been sent. That sounds a lot like the TC flag. I realize that some people have interpreted the TC flag to mean something else, but I think its actual meaning is pretty clear. > Additionally, the flag would signal compliance with updated 1035, for > starters. This would in effect be a version number. Our experience with version numbers in old protocols has not been great. > Also, it would facilitate lower effort in figuring out if a TC is referral > related or not, which could be important for implementers/operators doing > large scale stuff. I don't understand this. Caches surely already know when a response is a referral. If a referral response has TC set, in what way could that not be referral related? > Most importantly, this is all about interoperability, including not just > the wire format but the operational signaling. Turning on bits that have been zero for 35 years doesn't have a great history of interop, either. Look at the history of queries with EDNS0 never getting a response. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-… Wessels, Duane
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-gl… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-gl… Wessels, Duane
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-gl… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-gl… Wessels, Duane
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-gl… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-… Jan Včelák
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-… Jan Včelák
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Mukund Sivaraman
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Havard Eidnes
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Havard Eidnes
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] partial glue is not enough, I-D Actio… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] partial glue is not enough, I-D… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize, was partia… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-gl… Brian Dickson
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-gl… Peter van Dijk