Re: [DNSOP] Current DNS standards, drafts & charter

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Tue, 27 March 2018 11:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Current DNS standards, drafts & charter
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, Ondřej Surý wrote:

> I strongly believe that any work on cleaning up DNS protocol and/or rewriting RFC1034/RFC1035 and associated document would need a new WG with tightly defined charter.
>
> Hence, I will not request or I won’t support adopting my deprecating-obsolete-rr-types as a WG document - it might become one of the first documents for new WG, or it might end up as individual submission. While this work might be considered as “protocol maintenance”, I think it is bigger then simple protocol maintenance.

I agree. If this is a task worth doing, do it in a new WG.

Paul