Re: [DNSOP] Please review and provide feedback -- draft-stw-6761ext

Warren Kumari <> Fri, 09 August 2019 17:41 UTC

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Thank you Paul.

As an incentive to everyone else  -- there is an Easter Egg hidden in
this document: if you judiciously choose letters from the text (and
reorder them) you can create a very rude word.


P.S: Hey, it's worth a try!

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 4:31 PM Paul Wouters <> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019, Warren Kumari wrote:
> > [0]: There is lore that the IESG actually halted reservations under
> > the 6761 process, but that doesn't seem to be the case, or, if it is,
> > I cannot find a reference; if there is anything saying so, can someone
> > please send a link?
> If this refers to my comments, which I've given a number of times in
> response to this issue, it was DNSOP and not IESG that halted this as
> far as I remember.
> You can likely find it in some of the dnsop recordings of a year+
> ago, but I doubt many have the energy to do listen to a year of dnsop
> meetings. If we are resolving this issue now, then it is moot anyway. The
> reason I brought this up various times, is because (IMHO) DNSOP made a
> rather arbitrary decision to process .onion under the 6761 rules, but
> stopped every other name from using the same privilege. There might be
> messages in the list archive on this.
> I know Suzanne Woolf does not think my view represent how she remembers
> the events unfolding. Calling it "lore" though makes me feel like Data's
> evil twin :P
> Anyway, since we are addressing the problem now, even though it is
> unpleasant, is a good thing and the history does not matter that much
> to me. I will review the document later and respond in a separate message
> Paul

I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.