Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts

Olli Vanhoja <olli.vanhoja@gmail.com> Wed, 26 February 2020 19:33 UTC

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Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 20:32:45 +0100
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts
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On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 6:25 PM Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote:
>
> From my point of view that was the least important part of it,
> an optional extra that might help out CDNs some time in the future,
> and not necessary for deployment. Existing ANAME implementations
> work fine without it.
>
> The ANAME draft is far too complicated. I tried to simplify it but in
> retrospect I didn't go far enough.
>

That's actually why I was very interested in the draft last year. I had to
make exporting and importing Zone files with ANAMEs possible. Since
an ANAME would have caused a syntax error with any parser not
written by me, I ended up adding a semicolon at the beginning of every
such line. That worked just fine enough because it's very unlikely that
someone would accidentally write a comment looking exactly like an
ANAME RR.