Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-00.txt

Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> Tue, 16 December 2014 02:17 UTC

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My feedback to a possible -01 version is to add something related to not consider NTAs for the upper hierarchy of a failed DNSSEC domain. For instance, even if I see a good number of .gov domains failed DNSSEC, adding a NTA configuration for .gov would not be considered good operational practice, unless .gov itself starts failing DNSSEC validation. 

I know no RFC can determine what ops really end up doing, but not being allowed to claim that as a prescribed practice has some value. 


Rubens

> On Dec 15, 2014, at 11:15 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations Working Group of the IETF.
> 
>       Title           : Definition and Use of DNSSEC Negative Trust Anchors
>       Authors         : Paul Ebersman
>                         Chris Griffiths
>                         Warren Kumari
>                         Jason Livingood
>                         Ralf Weber
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 17
> 	Date            : 2014-12-15
> 
> Abstract:
>  DNS Security Extensions (DNSSEC) is now entering widespread
>  deployment.  However, domain signing tools and processes are not yet
>  as mature and reliable as those for non-DNSSEC-related domain
>  administration tools and processes.  Negative Trust Anchors
>  (described in this document) can be used to mitigate DNSSEC
>  validation failures.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors/
> 
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-negative-trust-anchors-00
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