Re: [DNSOP] Clarifying referrals (#35)

John Kristoff <jtk@depaul.edu> Mon, 13 November 2017 14:52 UTC

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On Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:26:41 +0000
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:

> This is quite a helpful response, thanks.  I wonder whether more of it
> ought to go in discussion (or a new draft),

I'd suggest a new draft be produced with which discussion could ensue.
The references Paul cites would not be clear to me that closer excludes
pointing up towards the root for instance. In fact, I would have thought
this is precisely what closer would mean from a pure graph/routing
perspective in certain scenarios.

REFUSED does not seem ideal to me either, but what if anything might be
better is probably ripe discussion in a new draft.

Paul, are you willing and able to work on a draft for this?  For what
it's worth I'd be supportive of that work.

John