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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 16:19:58 -0400
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Brian

I would feel the best approach would be to suggest the additions during
WGLC and allow the working group and the authors to work through them.
If it turns out there is an issue with consensus during the WGLC, we'll
pause that process.

Does this help?

thanks
tim


On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:13 PM Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Quick meta-question:
>
> If there is new information that would suggest additions to the document
> as helpful (improves document), which would be the normal or best approach:
>
>    - Ask for additions to the document during the WGLC itself
>    - Offer comments on the addition alongside a request to delay the WGLC
>    until the authors have had a chance to review/respond to the comments
>    - State the opinion that the document is not ready for publication,
>    based on the comments
>
> Brian
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 12:22 PM Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> This starts a Working Group Last Call for
>> draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements
>>
>> Current versions of the draft is available here:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements/
>>
>> The Current Intended Status of this document is: Informational
>>
>> Please review the draft and offer relevant comments.
>> If this does not seem appropriate please speak out.
>> If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please
>> speak out with your reasons.
>>
>> This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on:  2
>> November 2022
>>
>> thanks
>> tim
>> _______________________________________________
>> DNSOP mailing list
>> DNSOP@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">B=
rian</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I would =
feel the=C2=A0best approach would be to suggest the additions during WGLC a=
nd allow the working group=C2=A0and the authors to work=C2=A0through them.<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">If it tur=
ns out there is an issue with consensus during the WGLC, we&#39;ll pause th=
at process.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">D=
oes this help?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monos=
pace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace=
">thanks</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">=
tim</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:13 PM Brian Dickson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:br=
ian.peter.dickson@gmail.com">brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Quick meta-question:<div><br></div><div>If there is new information that wo=
uld suggest additions to the document as helpful (improves document), which=
 would be the normal or best approach:</div><div><ul><li>Ask for additions=
=C2=A0to the document during the WGLC itself</li><li>Offer comments on the =
addition alongside a request to delay the WGLC until the authors have had a=
 chance to review/respond to the comments</li><li>State the opinion that th=
e document is not ready for publication, based on the comments</li></ul><di=
v>Brian</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 12:22 PM Tim Wicinski &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:tjw.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tjw.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br>=
<br>This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-valid=
ator-requirements<br><br>Current versions of the draft is available here:<b=
r><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-valid=
ator-requirements/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf=
t-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements/</a><br><br>The Current Intended=
 Status of this document is: Informational<br><br>Please review the draft a=
nd offer relevant comments.<br>If this does not seem appropriate please spe=
ak out. <br>If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, p=
lease speak out with your reasons.<br><br>This starts a two week Working Gr=
oup Last Call process, and ends on: =C2=A02 November 2022<br><br>thanks<br>=
tim<br></div></div>
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